It must be a "New Generation" thing I can't seem to grasp...

Mac282 · Jun 15, 2020

First off I'm retired and do the RV circuit around Arizona. I mainly stay in the National Forest areas in Northern Az. This last weekend we must have had 100+ people staying close to our campsite in about 4-5 different groups. No problem there. I happen to spot a youngster, about 20-25 yrs of age, walking thru our camp, again no problem. However I spotted him carrying a DJI Phantom controller, but no drone. So, I inquired about this from his group where he was staying.
Either his mother, aunt or some relationship to him were ecstatic I had made contact with there group and that I had offered my help in the recovery of his drone. From the conversation, I learned that he launched from the middle of this group, about 35 people, straight up about 175 ft to tree top level and lost it to the wind as it cleared the tree tops. My UAV Flight app indicated a 35mph wind with gusts up to 50mph. Also only 6 satellites locking for GPS. Not a good time to fly.
Apparently he used the DJI Go 4 app, I'm not familiar with the Phantom 3, if you use that app or not, but I use that for my Mavic Air. I recommended they pull the flight record for a good idea of a location to start looking. They didn't even know that was possible and ready, it wasn't even registered. They left the following day, Sunday without making contact with me again. Now given it was almost dusk when this conversation started they came back empty handed.
I wonder if it's worth to go scout it out to retrive?
I don't want to group these youngsters together, but his attitude was a "oh,well" and I started to ponder about this. Never registered the drone, didn't give a hoot as to where or what happened to it. Gave up on the idea of recovery, and my help. I just found it very sad in this "new generation" of flyers.

THE CYBORG · Jun 15, 2020

More money than sense

old man mavic · Jun 15, 2020

that same attitude does not just apply to drones its a shame ,but it seems to be the norm for a lot of youngsters today easy come easy go

Motorcycle Rider · Jun 15, 2020

Some people seem to think that everything disposable.
Doesn't matter if its a car, ATV, furniture, computer, or whatever.
Maybe his parents make a few million a year, and buy him anything that he wants.
So he just doesn't care.

Juggler · Jun 15, 2020

Gen Y.....its all about me and care factor Zero

FlyingFilmmaker · Jun 15, 2020

Not all youngsters are that way... I don't let drones go easy.

And I try to be responsible how and when I fly (i.e. not flying in 40mph wind). I've not only registered my drone (from the beginning) but I've studied for and passed my part 107 this spring, and now have that certification.

P.S. If he had known what he was doing he might have been able to find it with the controller right after it went down.

Deleted member 103366 · Jun 15, 2020

If it's using Go4 it's more likely to be P4 than a P3 , my Adv & pro use the Go app, (i haven't tried them on the Go4 App) and so apparently do the 4K & Std.
I'd certainly have a look for it.
Re his attitude, the bank of Mum & Dad has deep pockets

Mac282 · Jun 15, 2020

I was thinking the same, of looking for it. Supposedly had about 20 minutes left of flight time, and they did show me the direction it went. This Thursday it looks like winds will be down to almost nothing, so I may send my MA up to scan the trees. If found I'll make a post and wait for a reply. Maybe contact sheriff's and wait 30 days. Either or it would be a nice addition to starting a DJI collection.

Johnmcl7 · Jun 15, 2020

DroneFilmmaker said:
Not all youngsters are that way... I don't let drones go easy. And I try to be responsible how and when I fly (i.e. not flying in 40mph wind). I've not only registered my drone (from the beginning) but I've studied for and passed my part 107 this spring, and now have that certification.

P.S. If he had known what he was doing he might have been able to find it with the controller right after it went down.

From reading around a range of forums being careless with drones and ignorance of rules can most certainly be a problem with all ages, the few young people I know with drones here are exceptionally careful with them as they don't have a lot of money to replace them with if they crash. It's extremely unfair and not even remotely true to start a topic blaming all young people based on a single encounter although it' s not the only one recently I've noticed, must be an old generation thing (that is sarcasm, I'm not going to make a horribly crude and inaccurate generalisation like that)

Mac282 · Jun 15, 2020

Sorry about the misunderstanding here. I'm not blaming or attempting to blame any generation. It just caught me off guard on this pilots attitude of not being in compliance with regulations, we all follow, of our hobby. More over not caring where it fell from the sky. There are several younger pilots who do respect what an where to fly, some even more responsible than there elders. So it was more of an observation than a thread to rant on something.

svenmarbles · Jun 16, 2020

Well it’s probably a good thing he lost it. Not registered, lost it “to wind” trying to do a simple maneuver.

Sounds like a typical (Mod Removed Langage)hat to me. Better he lose it that way rather than some very stupid and public way that would draw negative attention to drones.

One guy ( Mod Removed Langage)his pants, we all have to wear diapers.

Jetdriver100 · Jun 16, 2020

Kind of like the new "CAR SALES COMMERCIALS" I hope the young drivers are NOT getting lesson's by them on how to drive!
The Music is on loud with a car full of young people and Arms and Heads flailing around just having a great party time in the car cruising down the busy streets with no one seemingly paying attention to anything! Great advertisements .

Deleted member 114292 · Jun 16, 2020

I think you’re missing an important point here.
Many people just buy a drone as a toy -like a kite.
They are not really thinking of them selves as pilots and are not enthusiasts And I certainly don’t mean that as any form of criticism not everyone gets that far into it.
Rather than feel critical why not just understand that people are different ln their interests and if they don’t care about losing the drone why should you?
As for not following the rules there’s plenty of you here that have no interest in that so I don’t get why you’re criticizing them.

If anything the blame falls on the FAA and lawmakers for not actually regulating much of anything. For all intents and purposes drones are not regulated at this point.

If the tickets were not handed out for speeding or running a red light how do you think people would drive? If you weren’t required to take a test how well do you think people would understand the rules for driving?

If you don’t enforce anything and you don’t require training you’re not regulating.

Lurch003 · Jun 16, 2020

Sounds like karma to me!

Have only been on this forum a couple of months and I don't know where you guys get your patience from- the simplest but quite important things are asked over and over that prove the new owners haven't researched anything/read the manual/watched a few YT vids let alone registered or looked at the drone code. Thankfully a minority, but with drones becoming cheaper and more easily accessible, is it going to get worse?!!

Zbip57 · Jun 16, 2020

All these crazy regulations are a result of people's lack of common sense. I once was asked if I could do some aerial video of a wedding I was invited to. Nope. Sorry, I'm really not comfortable with that idea. At the time, any commercial flights in Canada required special SFOC permits and insurance. I'm not interested in going through all that. Besides, with my luck, I'd probably do the whole wedding flight but forget to press the record button again. D'oh. So they hired a professional photographer who had his own drone. I was very interested in watching him fly and do his stuff. As one drone flyer to another, I quizzed him about how long he'd been doing this sort of thing, and how long it took him to jump through all the hoops required for getting all the legal permits and Transport Canada approvals. He says, well ya, I keep meaning to look into that, someday...

ChrisOutdoors · Jun 16, 2020

Ignorance spans across all generations, it doesn't isolate itself to any particular age group. I've met someone with a DJI UAS' that won't fly it more than a few hundred feet because they're afraid to lose it and I've seen someone who flew it miles out and didn't know what half the information on the app meant. The first one was in his 30s the latter in his 50s. ??‍

DagDerniT · Jun 16, 2020

For those that think younger people

Johnmcl7 said:
From reading around a range of forums being careless with drones and ignorance of rules can most certainly be a problem with all ages, the few young people I know with drones here are exceptionally careful with them as they don't have a lot of money to replace them with if they crash. It's extremely unfair and not even remotely true to start a topic blaming all young people based on a single encounter although it' s not the only one recently I've noticed, must be an old generation thing (that is sarcasm, I'm not going to make a horribly crude and inaccurate generalisation like that)

Young people generally are more careless. Why do you think insurance company's charge younger drivers more money? Look at all the young people that took to the beaches not caring about the coronavirus. They also are careless with online security. Google it...

Capt KO · Jun 16, 2020

I agree Mac282, it’s called China syndrome. We grew up with “Made in America” and knew the quality of our purchases. Not so anymore. “Made in China” has made the new generations expect poor quality = throw away. Sad ?

Deleted member 114292 · Jun 16, 2020

Capt KO said:
I agree Mac282, it’s called China syndrome. We grew up with “Made in America” and knew the quality of our purchases. Not so anymore. “Made in China” has made the new generations expect poor quality = throw away. Sad ?

Only problem with you theory is that China can manufacture to any desired quality standard. The blame falls on US companies that request a price range that dictates lower quality. Or a big box store with orange aprons that buy the dirt cheapest stuff they can find - but then I have to assume that's what their customers want.

That used to be said of Japan back in the 60's and boy did they teach a thing or two about quality. If anything they showed made in america was not the high quality you made have thought it was.

Which is not to say America can't make high quality - if they so choose.

You may not care for Apple products or DJI products but the quality is great.

Mac282 · Jun 16, 2020

Congratulations. You've proved your point. I'm at fault for not understanding and placing the blame on others. I'm to old to sit here and nit pick over a causal observation I made. My fault for bringing age into it. I thought my apology would have been enough, but here again, my error. I'll just fade from this posting and hope you won't find anything else wrong.

It must be a "New Generation" thing I can't seem to grasp...

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